AT AT resizing

[Havoc04]

Hi fellas

 

Well Ive been doing a bit of mucking around with scales etc, because I WAS very unhappy with the scale of some things

especially the AT-AT. It didn't look fearsome/or something to be feared...

 

Unfortunatly with the DEFAULT camera that is with the game you WOULDNT be able to see the whole AT-AT, So ive been useing the custom camera someone made up and i downloaded Camera_Free.rar found at http://www.petroden.com/eaw_game_mods.shtml... Its the same camera settings that the Space battle use

Edited February 27, 2006 by Havoc04

[Foshjedi2004]

What Scale constant did you set it to?

[Zenoth]

Wow ...

 

It actually looks like the scale from the movies. Very nice to look at, but my question is ... is it even playable ? Imagine three or four of those in the same area.

[Havoc04]

@Foshjedi it was originally 1.75... i increased to 4.00 quiet i HUGE increase but for what i was looking for 4 .00 was the magical number

 

@Zenoth ive been playing Hoth for over 4 hours with these new sizes and the funny thing is that EACH walker RESPECTS each others space so the dont mesh or collide Like there are alotta settings in the game XML wise but i was after resizing mostly

 

Also looking at incresing the AT-ST a little in size too so IT looks like 2 of the ground troops COULD fit in there...ATM you couldnt PAY me enough to sit in 1 LOL

[Necro]

looks great!

[Havoc04]

@Necro Ty

 

Also looking into REDUCING somewhat the accuracy and damage of both Empire and Rebel Artillery to give each side a fighting chance. I think that that type of discussion has been beaten to death but if both sides are a little reduced it'll mean longer battles and a bit of extra surviving on both sides

[Foshjedi2004]

Personally I'd reduce the size of the ground Troops.

[Havoc04]

@Foshjedi i take it you you tried the edit??    there is 1 problem with that.. If you reduce the size of the troops then youre going to have to resize the turrets/buildings etc right down to the terrian on the maps.

 

If you use the troops as a guide to rescaling the job is a lot easier

[Foshjedi2004]

Ok.  No I haven't tried the modification.  I am currently at school so not really in a position to play eaw...

[Havoc04]

LOL there is ALWAYS time to play EAW

[Foshjedi2004]

Not when you are at School and Away from the EAW Copy. :

[DragonShadow]

  Foshjedi said:

Not when you are at School and Away from the EAW Copy. :

 

Ditto... :-[

[Necro]

i'd love to see mods like [ROR] do this!

 

be suer to resize buildings too so theyre not squashable

[Havoc04]

Well its a MOD i guess of sorts, but i was just screwing around to see what could be done with resizing

[WarHawk_pff]

4.00 is waaaay too big. If you watch ESB when Luke is running underneath the AT AT that gives you a nice sense of scale, I'd say 3.00 would be more like it.

[Havoc04]

Well i tried 3.00, and surfice to say it was actually still too small.

 

If you look at the New scale pic and compare the troopers to the feet youll see that the scale is about right

 

And i havent EVEN done the AT-ST that last new scale pic with a close up of the troopers and the AT-ST is sooo outta whack its not funny LOL

[WarHawk_pff]

I tried 4.00 as well, that's why I posted that it was too big, the troops just look way too small rapelling down those ropes, didn't look like the same size as luke at all. I guess someone is going to have to measure how large the AT AT is compared to luke from the films and apply that to the game.

[Teradyn_pff]

Already been done.  Go to this link and scroll down to the Size part of the AT-AT.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Ground/Armour-SW.html

[WarHawk_pff]

okay i was wrong

 

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Ground/Walker-side.jpg

 

that does look about right.

[DragonShadow]

Yeah, 4.00 is just about perfect.

[rebeldream]

Looks nice. I wonder if it will affect the tactics you have to use on planets with crowded terrain.

[Necro]

aiterraineffectiveness.xml apparently does that based on terrain no idea what it actually does though!

[rebeldream]

Now its going to be all the more diffricult for me to except a little squad of plex soldiers downing my Imperial Walkers. Makes me wonder where those things were at during the battle of Hoth.

[WarHawk_pff]

How do you get the shadows to work correctly at that size?

[DragonShadow]

Shadows (and weapons, explosions, etc.) all change based on the Scale_Factor of the unit.