Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) Hi fellas Well Ive been doing a bit of mucking around with scales etc, because I WAS very unhappy with the scale of some thingsespecially the AT-AT. It didn't look fearsome/or something to be feared... Unfortunatly with the DEFAULT camera that is with the game you WOULDNT be able to see the whole AT-AT, So ive been useing the custom camera someone made up and i downloaded Camera_Free.rar found at http://www.petroden.com/eaw_game_mods.shtml... Its the same camera settings that the Space battle use Edited February 27, 2006 by Havoc04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshjedi2004 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 What Scale constant did you set it to? http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenoth Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Wow ... It actually looks like the scale from the movies. Very nice to look at, but my question is ... is it even playable ? Imagine three or four of those in the same area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 @Foshjedi it was originally 1.75... i increased to 4.00 quiet i HUGE increase but for what i was looking for 4 .00 was the magical number @Zenoth ive been playing Hoth for over 4 hours with these new sizes and the funny thing is that EACH walker RESPECTS each others space so the dont mesh or collide Like there are alotta settings in the game XML wise but i was after resizing mostly Also looking at incresing the AT-ST a little in size too so IT looks like 2 of the ground troops COULD fit in there...ATM you couldnt PAY me enough to sit in 1 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 @Necro Ty Also looking into REDUCING somewhat the accuracy and damage of both Empire and Rebel Artillery to give each side a fighting chance. I think that that type of discussion has been beaten to death but if both sides are a little reduced it'll mean longer battles and a bit of extra surviving on both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshjedi2004 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Personally I'd reduce the size of the ground Troops. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 @Foshjedi i take it you you tried the edit?? there is 1 problem with that.. If you reduce the size of the troops then youre going to have to resize the turrets/buildings etc right down to the terrian on the maps. If you use the troops as a guide to rescaling the job is a lot easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshjedi2004 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Ok. No I haven't tried the modification. I am currently at school so not really in a position to play eaw... http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 LOL there is ALWAYS time to play EAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshjedi2004 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Not when you are at School and Away from the EAW Copy. : http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonShadow Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Not when you are at School and Away from the EAW Copy. : Ditto... :-[ http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/RyuuKageSIG.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/AoSW-JCW_Banner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 i'd love to see mods like [ROR] do this! be suer to resize buildings too so theyre not squashable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Well its a MOD i guess of sorts, but i was just screwing around to see what could be done with resizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk_pff Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 4.00 is waaaay too big. If you watch ESB when Luke is running underneath the AT AT that gives you a nice sense of scale, I'd say 3.00 would be more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc04 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Well i tried 3.00, and surfice to say it was actually still too small. If you look at the New scale pic and compare the troopers to the feet youll see that the scale is about right And i havent EVEN done the AT-ST that last new scale pic with a close up of the troopers and the AT-ST is sooo outta whack its not funny LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk_pff Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I tried 4.00 as well, that's why I posted that it was too big, the troops just look way too small rapelling down those ropes, didn't look like the same size as luke at all. I guess someone is going to have to measure how large the AT AT is compared to luke from the films and apply that to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teradyn_pff Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Already been done. Go to this link and scroll down to the Size part of the AT-AT.http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Ground/Armour-SW.html My Death Star is bigger than your Death Star!"The XML is strong with this one!"http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/teradyn.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk_pff Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 okay i was wrong http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Ground/Walker-side.jpg that does look about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonShadow Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Yeah, 4.00 is just about perfect. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/RyuuKageSIG.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/AoSW-JCW_Banner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeldream Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Looks nice. I wonder if it will affect the tactics you have to use on planets with crowded terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 aiterraineffectiveness.xml apparently does that based on terrain no idea what it actually does though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeldream Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Now its going to be all the more diffricult for me to except a little squad of plex soldiers downing my Imperial Walkers. Makes me wonder where those things were at during the battle of Hoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk_pff Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 How do you get the shadows to work correctly at that size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonShadow Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Shadows (and weapons, explosions, etc.) all change based on the Scale_Factor of the unit. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/RyuuKageSIG.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/AoSW-JCW_Banner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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