Re: ISD lack of anti fighter weponary

[Megajames]

The ISD has turbo laser's, and ion cannons, which it should, but it also should have a small laser cannon hardpoint in the center to repersent the hundered's of laser canons scatered along its hull. It should not be very efective against figters, but the ISD need somthing that can at least hit a fighter. The Mon cal's should proberbly have a few as well. I think this can be modded in but a am not sure. Do you think this is a good idea or that it would unbalence the game?

[Little.B]

I think this would unbalance the game. With anti-starfighter capacity capital ships won't encounter a real counter-unit because they can be used against everything. Of course one gun won't be that effective but then you can leave it because it would just be there for those who complain

[Megajames]

just a small cluster of laser cannons, it just looks stupid when and ISD can't hit a X-wing at point blank range

[akulapanam]

I think thats pretty true to Star Wars, the bigger ships had a hard time against the fighters, thats the empires weakness.

[Megajames]

they had a hard time but they didn't sit there firing turbo lasers at them

[shadowsfm]

well, in rotj, they used the, "being close to the isds" as a survival strategy too keep from having the death star from shooting at them, so them isds cant hit fighters at point blank range ether

[NOT Hadoken13]

well your a guy in a turret and a ship traveling humndreds of miles per hour zips past you, how are you supposed to hit it?

[Megajames]

well, in rotj, they used the, "being close to the isds" as a survival strategy too keep from having the death star from shooting at them, so them isds cant hit fighters at point blank range ether

 

sorry i don't quite get your point, could you expand on this

[Foshjedi2004]

Trench run Disorder.  keep near the Hull in the trenches so that the Guns Can't hit you.

[Megajames]

but there are no guns to hit you

and it think it is disease not disoreder

[Zer_Teron]

They dont need laser cannons, the Turbolasers hit fighters fine. An ISD can repel a couple of squadrons on its own(in game)

[Frost1977]

The ISD has turbo laser's, and ion cannons, which it should, but it also should have a small laser cannon hardpoint in the center to represent the hundred's of laser canons scattered along its hull. It should not be very effective against fighters, but the ISD need something that can at least hit a fighter. The Mon Cal's should probably have a few as well. I think this can be modded in but a am not sure. Do you think this is a good idea or that it would unbalence the game?

 

if you ever read any of the books.  " the X-wing series is good to start as it has lots of space combat"

 

Large ships,  are not able to target fighters well.   Turbo lasers and Ion cannons are like the Big 16" guns on a battle ship with there Size and mass they don't manover  quickly enough to track fighters. they also don't depress far enough to cover fighters that are close to the  hull of a large ship.  

 

thats partly why after the battle of yavin where the 1st death star is destroyed   one of the things imperial commanders fear most is  TRD trench run disease.

 

Star destroyers would still fire at fighters just hoping that to cause confusion and nail the unlucky pilots that fly into the wash of a laser bolt the size of a 18 wheeler. even a glancing blow would destroy a fighter.

thats why the imperial ships carry tie fighters.

 

it wasn't until the lancer frigate. that a ship was designed to deal with fighters. it had basically 40 turret mount laser cannons off Tie bombers.  they did not have the punch of  turbo lasers and were limited to about 2km in range they were mounted to fast moving turrets so that they could track a fast moving fighter.

 

now in RL it would make since to mount the anti-star fighters to star destroyers much as battle ships in WW2 carried all of the 20 & 40 mm along with .50 cal machine guns.

 

The writers of Starwars failed to put them on star destroyers, and thus capitol ships even those as small as a carrack class light cruiser are weak to fighter class ships.

[Megajames]

i know what happends in cannon, but in the game the ISD's just sit there fireing turbo lasers and ion bolt at the fighters

ps where can you get the x-wing series form i have read 2 of them but cannot get my hands on the rest

[Foshjedi2004]

amazon, Order them through a Bookstore like Waterstones.

[Baron_Fel]

but in the game the ISD's just sit there fireing turbo lasers and ion bolt at the fighters

 

What else sould they do? Sit there?

Fire from the big guns often misses, but they can bag an x wing. Just try it, get it down you your isd and a few x wing squads. If you fast forward, you will see that some x wings will be destroyed. As for SW lore, I dont think that ISDs had any laser cannons. Just tractor beams, turbolasers, and ion cannons.

 

ps where can you get the x-wing series form i have read 2 of them but cannot get my hands on the rest

 

Where do you live, under a rock?  ;D

Any bookstore I have been to has all or most of them. Just go to Waldenbooks or Barns and Nobles or Borders, they all have 'em.

[Guest]

star destroyer's should be able to hit fighters, anyone ever heard of point defense laser cannons?

 

SD's are coverd with them so they can ward off swarms of fighters

[Baron_Fel]

The Imperial-class Star Destroyer bristles with 60 turbolaser batteries, 60 ion cannon batteries, and 10 tractor beam projectors.

SDs have no laser cannons, straight from sw databank.

star destroyer's should be able to hit fighters, anyone ever heard of point defense laser cannons?

What do you mean by that? Turbolasers? Ion cannons? Both are too slow to hit starfighters except in rare cases.

[Mcas1937]

ISD's and most other Captial ships in SW don't have point defense lasers. Really only Hapes Nova Battle Cruisers, Assault Frigates, Carrack Cruisers, and Neblon-B's have both anti-captail ship firepower and anti-fighter weapons. Larger ships relay on organic starfighter squadrons.

[Guest]

SDs have no laser cannons, straight from sw databank.What do you mean by that? Turbolasers? Ion cannons? Both are too slow to hit starfighters except in rare cases.

 

*groan*  :  this may not be true of the Imperial class SD's but if you look at the venator cross section it says it has like 80 or something point defese laser cannons which are small and all over the ship that are fast enought to track starfighters

[MastaSpoofa]

*groan*  :  this may not be true of the Imperial class SD's but if you look at the venator cross section it says it has like 80 or something point defese laser cannons which are small and all over the ship that are fast enought to track starfighters

 

sometimes i use venator as anti star fighter, since it has concussion missle launchers and laser batterys, *Sigh* if only they have turbo lasers rather then lasers  :'(

[Guest]

hmmmm... looks like the capital ships kinda got screwed over in EAW

[OMEGA]

That's what Tartans are for bud. ;D

 

One of the great things about this game is that you can't just build the most expensive unit (ISD) and expect to win. You must have a variety of ships in your fleet if you are to succeed, which means that your going to have to build a good mixture of corvettes, gunships, cruisers, and destroyers.

[jedi mike]

Yes i like balance fleets so it all works out no super units, well for the most part theres no super units.

[MastaSpoofa]

Still, and ISD should own a corvette. I mean seriously. Think about it, little corvette with small lasers vs ISD with turbo lasers, but it takes about 1 minute of constant barrage from an ISD to destroy a corvette. Thank god for a tractor beam  :-\

[Relentless]

Still, and ISD should own a corvette. I mean seriously. Think about it, little corvette with small lasers vs ISD with turbo lasers, but it takes about 1 minute of constant barrage from an ISD to destroy a corvette.

 

Dont they? As far as I remember from the original demo even the VSDs crush corvettes pretty easily.