Missing Red Sqaudron

[plokoon9619]

Red Leader—Garven Dreis

Red 2—Wedge Antilles

Red 3—Biggs Darklighter

Red 4—John "D" (formerly Cesi Eirriss)

Red 5—Luke Skywalker (formerly Keyan Farlander)

Red 6—Lt. Jek Porkins

Red 7—Elyhek Rue

Red 8—Bren Quersey

Red 9—Lt. Naytaan

Red 10—Theron Nett

Red 11—Unknown

Red 12—Unknown

[Gen.Vader]

this is trivial, its not going to impact the game, who cares?

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

can this be moved to the bar please ans this isn't about the game it is about Red Squadron.

[Junker]

There is the Red Squadron in the Game. Look on this picture from the German Games Convention:

Red Squadron

 

www.sw-eaw.de

[Avaris]

Um, the title of this seems misleading. Red Squad is in the game, so it really shouldnt be a bar discussion I think. But the names of the snuffed fighters is far less important than the fact that the squadron sizes make no sense at all. As far as I know, almost all fighter squads in real life and in fiction have even number of fighters. This allows for "pairs" aka "wingmen". Two fighters working in tandem is more effective from several tactical standpoints. And most importantly, SW used 12 or 20, or 24 in every instance that I am aware of.

[JanGaarni]

Well, they arn't really squadrons (and certaintly not squads sorry, couldn't resist ).

 

They are more like Flight Groups rather than squadrons.

 

I only hope that star destroyers are able to deploy its full wing of 72 fighters in one go (aswell as for other crafts of course).

If not, I will be looking at ways of correcting this thru a small mod (prolly will need help with that ).

[Avaris]

well yes. But it appears that a ISD will have only 26 fighters. 20 ties and 6 tie bombers. (4x5 + 2x3).

[noian]

Its more of a trivia and Red Squadron has had differant people throuout the books. In fact, at one time there were twored squadrons.(as in two famous ones)

After all, almost every battle they've had red, gray, gold markings.(correct me if I'm wrong)

[Avaris]

Jan, you may be right. I had always understood a wing to be 72, which is made of 6 squadrons of 12, each squadron having 2-3 tactical "squads"... each tactical squad having 2-3 sets of wingmen. At any rate, 5 and 3 are never used, regardless of what you may call group.

[JanGaarni]

Jan, you may be right. I had always understood a wing to be 72, which is made of 6 squadrons of 12, each squadron having 2-3 tactical ("squads") flights... each tactical (squad) flights having 2-3 sets of wingmen. At any rate, 5 and 3 are never used, regardless of what you may call group.

[Megajames2]

if anyone noticted it is back on the unit list

[Phantom_pff]

Just a note: in some screen shots and vidios there are 4 TIE Bombers in a "Group". But there are also 3 in other pictures... so now im confused???

[deriko]

Probably what happened is some tie bombers got destroyed earlier, so there were only three or four left.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

yeah but in the NJO a Squad was 3 flights of 4? but in the pre NJO Rogue Squadron books its 4 flights of 3? why's it changed?

[Stellar_Magic]

I think you typed that backwards...

 

Anyway, in the NJO books the New Republic Fighter squadrons remain in three flights of four fighters each (Each composed of two wingpairs aka flight sections). However, in a frontal attack against Vong forces their tactical formations have been changed to four shield-trios (Each composed of three fighters). This formation is only used when engaging the vong in head to head combat and was only developed as a way to give fighter craft overlapping shield coverage against plasma fire.

 

In a standard dogfight the tactic is abandoned in favor of more conventional starfighter doctrine.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

ok fair enough but i didn't type it backwards because in the NJO they have 4 in a Flight so that the first two shields overlap and when they go down the rear two's fresh shield's are put in place.

[plokoon9619]

Im saying red sqaudron should be 12 fighters.

[Darth Tyrant]

There are alot of heroes missing, starting with Thrawn.

[Gen.Vader]

um, with only 16 or so slots, lets deaal with the main ones in that timeline, not EU

[plokoon9619]

Garm Bel Iblis is EU and hes around at the time plus is a rebellion founder. So don't say EU isn't a part of EAW.

[JanGaarni]

But unlike Thrawn, Garm Bel Iblis is vital part in order to tell the story on how the Rebellion was formed shortly before ANH.

[Foshjedi2004]

The Corellian Treaty....Mon Mothma may have been the Diplomatic Figurehead but it was Bel-Iblis with the actual power and tactical prowess.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

yeah it may have been but Mon Mothma and Bail Organa that took the Political hit from the Emperor. Bel Iblis went independant when Alderaan Was Destroyed.

[Foshjedi2004]

Bel Iblis was "assasinated". He went off Radar for 8 years!!

[Garbageben]

^^^ That's true. I forget what book set it's in (I'll probably read it again soon). Everyone though Bel Iblis was dead because there was an assassination attempt that killed his family. So he went underground and made a private war with the Empire in the time that he was thought dead. He doesn't pop back out until the Thrawn Trilogy.