X-Wing, ARC-170, and Z-95 Headhunter

[Stumps8807]

Ok, Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the Z-95 Headhunter pre-dated the ARC-170. If it does, then why is the Z-95 in and the ARC-170 isnt. If I'm wrong forget I asked. Also, do you guys think that the Z-95 will be very useful after the Rebels get the X-Wing?

 

Thanks!

[Stellar_Magic]

Well the Z-95 was much more common and continues updating kept it viable. The ARC-170 however was designed specifically for use by clones and was far less versatile. I get the impression it wasn't nearly as good in combat as the Z-95 was. It's sort of like the P-51 in the American Arsenal in Korea. We retired the P-80 before we dumped the Mustang.

[Rifts]

Well, the ARC was a heavier fighter than either of the other two, I believe. Also, the Republic/Empire phased out fighters like it in favor of TIEs and other cheap ships in line with their new doctrines.

 

The Z-95 would probably be cheaper and much easier to get a hold of, in the galactic map at least.

[felixforever]

i must say arc-170's look damn cool and i hope they are in just not mention'd yet... if not then hopefuly they will be in someone's mod.

[Nevets]

i must say arc-170's look damn cool and i hope they are in just not mention'd yet... if not then hopefuly they will be in someone's mod.

 

They are planned to be in a mod, also I can see them being in an expansion.

[AT-AP]

The ARC-170, Belbullab-22 and Eta-2 are all still present in the galaxy come the OT-era. Similarly to the Z-95, they are older craft rarely seen, but their inclusion as "elite" fighters available to both Imperial, Rebel and Independent factions in SW:Galaxies, means that both factions in the GCW use them as fighters, and exclusive ones at that.

 

And, yes, as said above, the ARC-170 is a heavy fighter/recon plane, while the Z-95 is a cheap, all-round starfighter that's been around for ages (pre-TPM to beyond NR-era, I think).

[Stumps8807]

So my last question, do you guys think they'll be useful after the rebels get the X-Wing?

[AT-AP]

If the cost of the Z-95 remains low, it might become an alternative for resource-strapped forces.

[Teradyn_pff]

The Rebell Alliance, being what it is, doesn't start out having full ship production capabilities anywhere near the capacity of the Empire. They are a group of the largest pirate factions who banded together, so they will have older equipment like the Z-95 as their main starfighters. The Arc-170 are Old Republic/New Empire craft... the Rebells would most likely not even have the resources to maintain these craft, especially if the Empire doesn't deem them valid anymore.

[JanGaarni]

When you say "pirate", do you mean pirate, or are you in character?

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

he means that they were a group of Pirates. but it isn't true the REbel Alliance was formed by a union of Planets that were loyal to the Old Republic and the Idea of have a voice through the Senate NOT a group of Pirates they may have had to resort to capturing enemy Ships and hit and run strikes but they always treated the captured crews and personnel in an honest way and gave anyone a fair trial! NOT like the Empire who's policy was to capture POLITICAL enemies and put them in Prison camp for fighting against Palpatine's orders.

[Stellar_Magic]

Actually from what I read the Alliance's history is something of a combination of the two. There were a number of true pirate bands that joined the Alliance, mostly to give themselves a carblanch to attack Imperial naval shipping. The Alliance also offerred privateering contracts to pirates that only attacked Imperial shipping.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

yeah but the Alliance may have hired Privateers just not Pirates and it was stated that they were formed by Pirates (this coming from a supportor of a regime based on Massacres and Planetary Bombardment!) but the Alliance was formed official signing of the Corellian Treaty between Corellia, Chandrila, and Alderaan. the process was started by Senator Bel Ibis but finished by Mon Mothma with Mon Mothma at its head. Mon Mothma secured her position when Alderaan was Destroyed with Bail Organa on it, after Mon Mothma Began to draw power to herself for fear of losing control Bel Ibis left and was replaced by Admiral Ackbar of Mon Calamari who proved to have a good Tactical Mind.

[Zer_Teron]

Oh they didnt have privateers because they couldnt afford them, it was in the Courtship of Princess Leia

[Mcas1937]

All a privateer is, is an Pirate with sponsership.

[DarthMaulUK]

The ARC-170, Belbullab-22 and Eta-2 are all still present in the galaxy come the OT-era. Similarly to the Z-95, they are older craft rarely seen, but their inclusion as "elite" fighters available to both Imperial, Rebel and Independent factions in SW:Galaxies, means that both factions in the GCW use them as fighters, and exclusive ones at that.

 

SW:Galaxies has nothing to do with Star Wars and its timeline should be ignored as instead of moving forward, its gone backward!

 

In Rebellion, the rebels had Y-wing recon fighters instead of Probe droids to search out planets. I would think that the Z-95 would be a cheaper alternative in EaW

 

DMUK

[AT-AP]

SW:Galaxies has nothing to do with Star Wars

Actually, individual facts from the game have been noted and included by LFL continuity checker Leland Chee, so parts of it are canon. Though this does not automatically make it a good game. =P

 

It's not that strange to see remnants of CW-era technology being used somewhere in the GCW-era, as most war vehicles are from that era anyway (AT-ATs, AT-STs, AT-PTs, AT-APs, Juggernauts, 74-Z speederbikes, ISPs, Acclamators, Victorys etc.). Even the first Imperator destroyers were being tested towards the end of the Wars, so having some fighters around from that time as rare elite craft is not that unbelivable.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

yeah but why would they be rare Elites they were put in mass production during that era. and the Z-95 is still superior to the TIE Fighter, even though it was designed what 5-10 YEARS before it.

[AT-AP]

Well, the 'rare' thing is just something I put in their profiles on SW Wiki, since in the game you need some experience to finally gain them, and that makes them pretty much rare compared to most other fighters. Of course, they could be elite craft and still be common in certain parts of the galaxy...

[Ghostly_Substance]

SWG added both time periods and some EU which just outright ruined the game. You master a profession then your bored as heck so you do other missions and get bored again or win barely anything. Combat upgrade copied WoW which is just sickening and pointless. I liked it for 6 months but now its just total crap. As DMUK said it doesn't even fit the story line its in and Grevious is back? Yes hes half droid half alien but that doesn't mean he can get rebuilt. Sorry for going off topic but just had to say this

 

Oh and those headhunters, they arent used as Rebel starting crafts but as pirate crafts. Rebels start off with the Y-Wing which is total crock in my pov.

[AT-AP]

They're actually writing an extra article on N-K Necrosis (the Grievous-lookalike), so we're yet to see what it truly is.

[The Saint]

The Z-95 was built for wide spread use. Everyone from planetary militas to private corporations use the Z-95 which means its going to be around for awhile. While the ARC-170 was built for sole military use of the republic, and was going to be phased out more than likely for the X-wing, a heavy starfighter thats more nimble, with nearly the same punch.

 

Think of it this way, even 60 years after WWII, there are still some folks who use PBY Catalina's for actual work purposes, yet try to find one P-47 Thunderbolt for combat operations anywhere in the world.

[Xenomorphine]

they may have had to resort to capturing enemy Ships and hit and run strikes but they always treated the captured crews and personnel in an honest way and gave anyone a fair trial!

 

Or at least, that's what they like people to think...

 

[Stellar_Magic]

I've got it... What actual mission profile does the ARC-170 have? It's like the russian IL2 in World War II. It's primary purpose is ground attack and capital ship attack. It is capable of engaging in dogfights but isn't best when used in that way (Consider just how few Droids those ships took out in Episode III).

 

The Z-95 was first designed as an Atmospheric Fighter, it performed well and a number of different versions came along expanding its mission profile to the point where it could handle Space Superiorty missions.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

Stellar thats what it was the V-wingand ARC-170 are bombers primarily not superiority Fighters like the X-wing even if it has been designed to be it just didn't turn out that way. then the Z-95 is brought in predecessor to the X-WIng and instant hit in the field where it was empty but around the time of the ROTS where was the Y-Wing it's a solid old design for use in a situation like that and the use of it spans the Entire OT and EU era right up till the (i hate to say this as i cant stand the books EU Wrecker!) Swarm War.