Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Zahn is a master! but yeah your examples are right and i believe it was even Zahn how came up with the Idea of Cloaking, Planet-wide sheilding and the Interdictor. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Teradyn_pff Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 yeah it looks as if there's a bunch of EU haters in here, your intitled to you opinons but it maynot be "real"star Wars but its not Fan Fiction either Fan Fiction is written by some High Schooler who thinks that they are good at it. but the EU is written primarily by Sci-fi writers that have been pre approved by Lucas. Well, the problem is that Lucas doesn't even hold true to his first works. It is kind of like rounding something off way too early in a mathematical work. The error that exists is amplified exponentially by the time you get to the "solution". This is my view on the EU. It is of course ok for entertainment as all fan fiction should be, but I disagree with any of it being considered canon. Know what I mean? Even Lucas violates his own canon. Just because he wrote it in the first place doesn't mean that contradicting himself is anything but that. Anyhoo. I think that we all have our opinion of EU and I think that any debate about how valid or invalid it is is moot. I don't consider EU canon, but I do think that EU should be used (where it fills in gaps in the previous stories, nothing more) instead of brand new made up stuff, like the Broadside... etc. My Death Star is bigger than your Death Star!"The XML is strong with this one!"http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/teradyn.png
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 i think i know where your comming from with the Contradicting himself Teradyn i personally disagree with the Midi-chlorians thingy but really the EU doesnt even encorporate this idea i wish that they'd take it out of the Film but other than that i don't dislike the last 3 films. or the EU. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Teradyn_pff Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 What about Jar-Jar? My Death Star is bigger than your Death Star!"The XML is strong with this one!"http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/teradyn.png
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 i think Jar-Jar should be strapped to the DS laser and it Fired. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
JanGaarni Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Well, fortunatly for the rest of us, you don't decide what is canon and what is not. Lucasfilm Ltd. policy decides, and states this. In fact, there is no such thing as Canon and EU any more. It's just G-level canon, C-level canon, and S-level canon, in that order of importance. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
SirNuke Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Wikipedia Still Rocks, regardless of the current events. G-level: George Lucas stuffC-level: Everything EU that isn't contradicted by g-levelS-level: Old stuff that has elements that have now changed Zing!
Teradyn_pff Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 ewwwww, the catch all : "S-level" anyone guess what S means? My Death Star is bigger than your Death Star!"The XML is strong with this one!"http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/teradyn.png
JanGaarni Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Secondary Source. However, I strongly dissagree with this decission, as I believe anything mentioned first takes presedence above anything that is published later, unless the later publication is more accurate or more believable. But that's my opinion, and personal opinions don't count so I'll have to live with it. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
Teradyn_pff Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Meh, the S stands for sh** yep, it sure does. My Death Star is bigger than your Death Star!"The XML is strong with this one!"http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/teradyn.png
Guest JediIgor Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 "N-canon" isn't actually canon . With that being said, it's clear that there are several subtypes of C-canon, with books being the most important, RPGs/comics the second most, and games the least. I like the word "canon." It's such a loaded word.
JanGaarni Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 Well, it is canon. Or rather Non-canon, which is what the N stands for. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 this makes sense so what so the Swarm War books come under? cause they contradict the C-level stuff? http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Stellar_Magic Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 Definite S**t level canon... Seriously we should organize a book burning for those three books. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 i'll lead it if anyone wants to do that i'll gladly do it i dont display my copies of the first two they are hidden in descrase. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
JanGaarni Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 Well, it's not like it's divided into "This book is C-level, that book is S-level". It's more like each individual reference in that book is defined as perhaps C-level, other parts are S-level, while some stuff might be completely N-level cause it contradicts a higher canon level. Some books even have G-level canon, which is the highest level of canon there is (stands for George if you haven't figured it out yet ), unless it's contradicted by the movies themselfs. Hence, while most of the Holiday Specials are considered N-Canon, it still has elements in it that is C-Canon, or even G-Canon. Anyway, this is getting very off-topic here, so if you want to read more about this, LucasForums has a very good explaination on it here. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
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