Dorkthehunter Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 On the LA site, in the videos it shows troopers taking more damage that vehicles! On the trailers, it shows infantry being mowed down! Which is it? Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Jmaster3265 Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 On the LA site, in the videos it shows troopers taking more damage that vehicles! On the trailers, it shows infantry being mowed down! Which is it? Well if you think logically I believe that it has to be the trailers, think about it trailers are to show what the game is like etc. I doubt they would put false or show false info in the trailer. I'm not sure about the clips...i hope theat helped you a bit... I thought that the infantry were taking too much damange and i was wondering why they didn't de, also in the new movies i felt thought that the AT-ST took too little hits before dying. Although they might have done this for many reasons we are unaware of at this time. http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1135/jmaster3265signew13rd.jpg
SirNuke Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 I believe the correct answer is the fact that game balance is one of the last things you 'finalize' (since just about any change in the game can completely mess it up). Furthermore, they most likely have multiple 'versions' of balance being tested, and the different movies come from different versions (furthermore, I suspect that the balance have changed quite a bit from the trailers to these newer movies). I personally thought that the Infantry were taking too much damange without dieing in these new movies (though I also thought that the AT-ST took too many hits before dieing). However, the new movies may just be from a version that is tweaked to strongly favor infantry, which may not be a bad thing as infantry are vital to your battles (required to capture flags), and since infantry seem to be near worthless in many rts games. Zing!
Gen.Vader Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 sheesh how many times must this be uttered? the movies ahve NOTHING to do with the games balance, its all hype and advertising, trying to get the bifggest,longest, or best explosions and actions. I've have you now - Lord Vader
Jmaster3265 Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 sheesh how many times must this be uttered? the movies ahve NOTHING to do with the games balance, its all hype and advertising, trying to get the bifggest,longest, or best explosions and actions. Maybe, he didn't look through the forums and check to see? Jeez Vadar what is your problem always being so negative to certain peoples posts.... http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1135/jmaster3265signew13rd.jpg
Sergeant Bob Posted November 25, 2005 Posted November 25, 2005 Rebels are far from overpowered. Cable attacks against ATAT's are the most effective means to take them out, but ATAT's do have some tricks to thwart this tactic. Don't let videos fool ya, they are meant to tease. =)I don't think we have to worry about infantry taking a lot of damage before dieing. I think Vader is just fustrated with the lack of inteligence in how people post and how they don't use the search option and so on.
JanGaarni Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Trailers will usually be better than the actual game ... or the movie. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
Gen.Vader Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 sheesh how many times must this be uttered? the movies ahve NOTHING to do with the games balance, its all hype and advertising, trying to get the bifggest,longest, or best explosions and actions. Maybe, he didn't look through the forums and check to see? Jeez Vadar what is your problem always being so negative to certain peoples posts.... im negative to spam and ill thought threads with answers available in 3 other posts of the same subject satisfied? I've have you now - Lord Vader
lordstorm88 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 I think I've heard that the game is with units and counter units. so probably there are good counter units to infantry. of course its quite probable that the infantry will be less costly than vehicles and infantry comes in squads when vehicles don't. so there. but we'll probably see lots of infantry getting blown up. poor them soldiers.
Dorkthehunter Posted November 26, 2005 Author Posted November 26, 2005 I'm talking about the new movies on the new LA site! It is what the game will be probably and I think the infantry are too powerful. Watch the plax trooper, AT-ST, and the Tie Mauler videos. Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Delphi-PG Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 All depends on the unit doing damage. That's part of the RPS. Delphi-PGGame Designer/Community Rephttp://www.petroglyphgames.com
Dorkthehunter Posted November 26, 2005 Author Posted November 26, 2005 All depends on the unit doing damage. That's part of the RPS. Shouldn't the AT-ST be an anti-infantry unit? It gets shredded by the flax troopers, that it should be good against! I think there is a balance error. Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Foshjedi2004 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 RPS?? I thought EAW was an RTS.......... http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
[[Template core/front/global/userPhoto is throwing an error. This theme may be out of date. Run the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme.]] Guest Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 the game is just really screwed up, especially in scale where darthvader seems to only be about 3 feet shorter than an ATST
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 You do know you can change the scale right? If your not happy you can change the scale yourself or ask someone to do it for you if your lost. -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Zer_Teron Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 RPS = Role-Play Strategy http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
Foshjedi2004 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 I know that, but EAW is or was orignially supposed to be an RTS Real-Time-Strategy game. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 He typoed ? If not then i'm confuzzled. -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Foshjedi2004 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 They have changed the whole construct of the game or just Typoed. Hopefully the latter. Delphi needs to come and rectify his Typo or expand on the change of heart. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
Guest Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 wonder why they didn't make the scale right in the first place
Delphi-PG Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Uhh..RPS (ABR) from an RTS designer means = Rock, Paper, Scissors balance Delphi-PGGame Designer/Community Rephttp://www.petroglyphgames.com
Havok9120 Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 You'll notice that the movies where vader was so tall were all from E3...For those of you that paid attention you know that the scale was changed at E3 on the fighters and infantry so that the people could see from the crowd. The fact that LA seems intent to reuse the same footage as often as possible means that even on the trailers its messed up. The scale on the unit sample movies seems new, and boasting a more "realistic" scale. Sorry if I'm being harsh but Beowulf is reminding me of Cheesinator on the LA forums...has very little positive to say.
Garbageben Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Uhh..RPS (ABR) from an RTS designer means = Rock, Paper, Scissors balanceThat could explain somewhat for why AT-STs do so little damage to infantry. The podwalker and speeder bike would be the primary vehicles of choice against infantry. AT-AT (heavy vehicle) --> AT-ST (med. vehicle) --> podwalker (light vehicle) --> InfantryWell that's just a hypothesis anyway. http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sh/type/0/garbageben.png
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Sorry if I'm being harsh but Beowulf is reminding me of Cheesinator on the LA forums...has very little positive to say. Thats what i'm starting to think also but hes slowly using a positive insults on LEC if you know what I mean to mask it up. Anyways RPS means Rock, Paper, Scissors balance. Ah ok then -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Zer_Teron Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Did you look at the Ewoks? They must have wondered to close to a leaking Reactor Core or something, maybe their Imperial Experiments http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
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