By the look of the screens...(for imperial ships)

[DarkTrooper14]

There are Imperator l Class Star Destroyers, Victory l Class Star Destroyers, Acclamator Class Transporters, Interdictor Class Cruisers, Nebulon-B Frigates, Corellian CR90 Corvettes, and Corellian Gunships. If there are more, post them here.

 

 

The link to all Imperial ships http://insd.swcombine.com/insd.htm.

[Naja]

The Rebels have Nebulon B Frigates, the Correlian Corvettes, and Correlian Gunship.

 

The Imperials also a missile ship (the Broadside Cruiser), the Venator Star Destroyer, and Tartan Patrol Cruiser.

[Delphi-PG]

Don't forget Mon Cals and Home 1.

[Nevets]

Don't forget Mon Cals and Home 1.

 

Does this mean Home 1 is not a hero ship and buildable like the rest of these?

[Stellar_Magic]

Not really, most canon sources have it so the ship actually carried less turbolasers then the standard Mon Calamari Class Ships, but it did carry a God awful number of fighters compared to the Mon Calamari class.

 

(It's also been suggested in some sources that at least one other sister ship existed and participated in the Battle of Endor.)

[AT-AP]

Actually, the Home One had an entire class and wasn't particularly unique. At least one sister-ship got fragged by the DS II (the second we see blown up) and another one passed behind the Executor as it fell (it's the scene before we see the fall from Ackbar's POV, so unless the Ex twisted around from scene to scene, his ship would be the second of this class in vicinity of it.)

 

But I reckon him being the supreme commander of the Rebel Navy would earn him a special ship anyway, so hero unit sounds fine to me.

And speaking of Mon Cal classes, does the game have the ones with wings and the ones without (but with an extra engine)? Or is it just the winged ones?

[Foshjedi2004]

Home Ones Sister ship was, if you believe XWA, the Mon Cal Cruiser Defiance. Yet the Defiance was the First MC90. Obviously there was a timeline issue there too.

[AT-AP]

The problem with the Mon Cal ships, is that they keep mixing up names. As far as I've been able to gather, the ROTJ ships have never been attributed any class-names (the only ones used having already been attributed ships that don't look like them at all).

 

Now, Lucas Licensing, or whoever, made up some excuse about all ships being slightly different, which doesn't really explain why the same three designs keep showing up during the Battle of Endor and other stories (any differences between ships of each class would therefore be minor, cosmetic ones).

 

I only hope newer sources will finally give these proper names, because using "Liberty-type", "Home One-type" and "wingless Liberty-type" gets tiring.

 

I suppose the only names used in EAW is "Mon Cal Cruiser", right?

 

Home Ones Sister ship was, if you believe XWA, the Mon Cal Cruiser Defiance. Yet the Defiance was the First MC90. Obviously there was a timeline issue there too.

Could be two different ships with the same names. On a galactic scale, it'd be hard to avoid similar names once in a while.

[Little.B]

Hey, its just a movie. Not everything has to be perfect

[The Relentless]

Hey, its just a movie.

 

You're dead.

 

Anyways, I've always thought of Home One as one of a kind, and nothing's going to change that.

[AT-AP]

There's nothing in the movie to indicate their classes either way. The movie doesn't bother me, it's the inconsistent naming in the EU.

 

Last year we got GR-45 for the "clamshell" transport in ANH and GR-75 for the bigger transports used by the Rebels in ESB and ROTJ.

 

Following this example, how hard would it be to actually name the Mon Cal ships from ROTJ? All they have to do, is use numbers that haven't been listed before, like MC-85 or something. By being different from the MC-80a and b, and still lower than MC-90, this would solve the problem and I wouldn't have to strain my fingers writing down the nicknames ;P.

 

Anyways, I've always thought of Home One as one of a kind, and nothing's going to change that.

It is one-of-a-kind since it's the Supreme Naval Commander's ship. Just as the Executor is one-of-a-kind being Vader's personal warship. Doesn't mean it's singular.

[Logain]

i've always thought of Home-One as just being the same as the normal mon-cal cruisers, just larger

 

oh and it does have less guns, but carries stupidly large ammounts of fighters, 8 squadrons i think, i dont really remeber

[Teradyn_pff]

i've always thought of Home-One as just being the same as the normal mon-cal cruisers, just larger

 

oh and it does have less guns, but carries stupidly large ammounts of fighters, 8 squadrons i think, i dont really remeber

But will it in this game, I wonder. Methinks the modding community is going to need to put together a EAW "realism" patch.

[Zer_Teron]

There was or is no Home One Class, the Home one was unique the largest Mon Cal of its kind. The ones that look like it are MC-80s and the Winged ones are MC-80b's. It had less weapons than the others and the only way it could ever stand up to an Imperial class is with a massive amount of firepower. Really though no single MC was built that could take on an Imperial Class till after the war.

[Stellar_Magic]

16 Turbolasers on the Home One up against 60+ on and ISD...

 

Actually Home One isn't the name of the ship at all, its the ship's call sign. The ship's name is the Independence.

[AT-AP]

There was or is no Home One Class, the Home one was unique the largest Mon Cal of its kind. The ones that look like it are MC-80s and the Winged ones are MC-80b's. It had less weapons than the others and the only way it could ever stand up to an Imperial class is with a massive amount of firepower. Really though no single MC was built that could take on an Imperial Class till after the war.

Sadly, no. The illustrations and stories containing MC-80s do not correspond to the ships seen in the films. I have composed some comparison pics (taken from the Tech. Commentaries site), so you can see the difference in both size and shape:

 

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/MCships.jpg

 

The Liberty-subclasses would be around 1200m in length, thus making each Home One-type ship approx. twice the size of an Imperator.

[Zer_Teron]

It is bigger than the Imperial-class but it doesnt have near as many weapons, it was built as a flagship. So sadly yes, and theres the fact that no two Man Cals are the same. The MC80a has no wings, there are only two types in the movies and until a pretty long while after Endor, MC80a and MC80b. THe MC90 was a cross between a military ship and passenger liner.

[Logain]

big problem is they say that it doesnt go past ANH.

 

we dont see Home One till ROTJ, is it just me, or is that somewhat hypocritical?

[AT-AP]

It is bigger than the Imperial-class but it doesnt have near as many weapons, it was built as a flagship.

A flagship is only "the ship that carries the commander of a fleet and flies his flag", the definition says nothing about a lack of firepower.

 

So sadly yes, and theres the fact that no two Man Cals are the same.

That is mostly on a minor cosmetic level, most ships seen in the movies and comics share enough similarities to be grouped into distinct classes.

 

The MC80a has no wings, there are only two types in the movies and until a pretty long while after Endor, MC80a and MC80b. THe MC90 was a cross between a military ship and passenger liner.

No, there are three types of classes seen in ROTJ, with two being based around a similar hull:

 

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/mccruisers1.jpg

Winged on the right, non-winged on the left.

 

Another winged cruiser going up against a star destroyer:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/wingedvsdestroyer.jpg

 

Home One-type ship being fragged by the DS II:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/homeonedead.jpg

[Ghostly_Substance]

Well it also is that these ships also exist in the backgroun of the movie going from after 3 - 4 so even if its not in the movie but takes place during the movie timeline you can bet its in or from what I can understand.

[AT-AP]

Yeah, the Mon Cal had already driven the Empire from their sector by this time, I believe. They managed to help them escape from their main base at Yavin IV a few months after the Battle of Yavin, attacking Imperial blockade fleets at various points to distract them, so they must have had a sizable fleet themselves by this time.

[Zer_Teron]

There is no "Home One" type ship, thats a MC-80b just like the other one. The wingless ones are MC-80a's; the differences between them are not just little paint jobs, they have totally different hull configurations based on a loose design. They have "bumps" in different places and engines are sometimes larger or smaller, there are many differences and some are smaller or larger than the other ships of thier class; ex' Home One is a MC-80a type ship built as a super large passenger liner then converted to be Admiral Ackbars flagship after the battle of Hoth, as it was not meant to go head to head against Imperial ships its biggest advantage is its huge size and 10 Starfighter squadrons. It doesnt have as many guns as even the much smaller Victory class star destroyers so it relies on other ships and starfighters to protect it.

[Teradyn_pff]

That is correct from what I can tell, but in the game I bet you the Home One will be able to take out an ISD head to head. Fix it in XML I will.

[Zer_Teron]

Yeeeeessssssssssss

[AT-AP]

That is correct from what I can tell, but in the game I bet you the Home One will be able to take out an ISD head to head. Fix it in XML I will.

This is retarded, how can a ship over twice the size of an ISD loose in a one-to-one situation? Even if the thing doesn't have the same amount of guns (should have more, with its bigger size), the Mon Cal ships were known for their additional shields, which should at least even things up a bit.

 

And I point to ROTJ, where three distinct designs can be seen throughout the film. Any differences between ships of each design would be cosmetic.