turtle Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 I think it is widely agreed that Jar Jar Binks was the most annoying and quite possibly the most over used character in the Star Wars movies. I got to thinking, Who of characters in the movies didn't receive enough time in the movies that was cool enough to receive a bigger role? Who had a role that didn't do the character justice? I think Boba Fett's role wasn't big enough or deep enough. Darth Maul is someone I personally would've liked to have seen more of.
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted October 2, 2006 SWR Staff - Executive Posted October 2, 2006 Darth Maul was just an on-screen average bad guy... he has a much deeper history in the novels. Too bad he never really had the depth as Darth Vader's character in the movies. Also Count Dooku (Darth Tyrannus) was used in the same way... while he actually had some good lines, much more of his background is developed from the books. If you just saw Episode 2 and Episode 3 only, you would figure he's just another average bad guy seduced by power. There is an interesting quote by Harrison Ford... he was expecting a much better resolution with Boba Fett. He was saying after reading the script of Return of the Jedi... he was expecting Boba Fett to turn out to be Luke's mother! That would have really been an interesting twist. Of course, Harrison Ford also wanted the Han Solo character to die in the movie. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
turtle Posted October 2, 2006 Author Posted October 2, 2006 Mark Hamil commented that he thought Boba Fett was given the short end of the stick in return of the Jedi. Something along the lines of Boba Fett was supposed to be this reaaly good bounty hunter and they got rid of him rather cheaply. Thats not a direct quote but basically what I think he said or meant. Darth Maul was an average bad guy, but then again after having the Ãœber bad guy in Darth Vader I guess you can't win them all. I do think his character could've been better if it did show more of him. From a certain point of view he was little more than a glorified storm trroper as much of the time he was given he was fighting or chasing down the good guys. I think there are probably storm troopers who had more dialogue than he did!
The_Dane Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Personally I think that Boba Fett had the ability to become a really cool character in the OT, but they messed him up in the end making a joke about how he died (didn't he fly out of Sabaac in one of the books?).I could live with that, but then Lucas began expanding his character in the Prequel showing his emotions and history and stuff. They really just made their mistake greater there, or so I would say... Enough has already been said about Jar Jar Another character I would have liked to see more of in the OT is Mon Mothma, I mean she is the leader of the Rebels but is hardly given screen time... "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions."
dulljackieboy Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Anybody read the comic where somebody cloned Maul, and Palpy sent Vader to wreck their cloning operation (this is the early days of the Empire) and Maul was totally waxing Vader's ass until Vader stabbed himself through his own guts to kill the Maul clone coming up behind him? Awesome.
The_Dane Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Huh??? Hmm, sounds kind of curious... BTW a clone of Darth Maul wouldn't necessarily have force powers would it? Just think about the Dorsk 81 (or 82, can't seem to remember) situation he is the 81. clone in a row and he was the only one with forcepowers...I can understand how Palpys clone kept his powers but Maul was nowhere near that powerfull was he??? "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions."
Darth_Rob Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 I definetly feel that Fett was not given his due in the movies. Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side! My Website http://fp.profiles.us.playstation.com/playstation/psn/pid/BigBadBob113.png
DarthTex Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 More on Maul for the Prequel movies would have definitely added some depth (as well as Dooku & Grievious). For the OT, I would have liked to have seen more on Piett and Ozzel, as well as Rieekan and Akbar (Boba Fett was already mentioned) Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
Mad78 Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Piett and Darth Maul are the two I would liked to have seen expanded. About the history of Darth Maul: There was alot of non-cannon stuff written about him. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Lord_La_forge Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 I rahter think Ackbar was enough. Piett was a great character, and although he had only a few lines, his acting was superb. I vote for Piett too. But Boba Fett get's 1 point.Oh and don't forget the Rancor's beastmaster.
Eagle Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Grand Moff Tarkin had such a small appearance in Episode 3. General Riekkan and General Dodonna had a much too small part too. Who cares at all?!
JediHunter Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 i Think mon mothma, tarkin, boba fett (not included how they screwed him), maul, dooku and grievous all could have been given more background / screen time... ackbar could have benefited from it.. but it wasnt necessary... honestly though... the whole rebellion could have used more air time in the OT... you never really knew how big it was or who it involved really until i think RotJ.... but.. yea.. "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together."http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/akira9949/4297_image.jpg
malarkie Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 I think that all of the rebellion leaders did not get near enough time.And Biggs, Luke kept saying stuff to him, but you have to pay attention just to figure out who he is. I would also like to see more of Dooku, in the films there were only hints at what he did, and it seemed much cooler than what he did on screen. And kill Jar-Jar Disregarding all new evidence everywhere.
Jahled Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Oh and don't forget the Rancor's beastmaster. I burst into tears when I see his despair! CURSE YOU for reminding us! http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
DarthTofu Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 On the subject of cloning: Timothy Zahn screwed it up for the expanded universe when he began cloning the best pilots, troops, and engineers for his forces. They supposedly needed no training to be as good as the fellows they were cloned from when, in fact, they would have the intillect of a child and would be incapable of doing squat. As a matter of fact, they could be very different than the person they are cloned after. 'Nough said on the "I frigging hate Timothy Zahn's books" front from me. I personally would have liked to see more of A) Maul and B) Qui-Gon (Primarily because Lam Nieson is a pretty damned good actor) ... I also get slightly teary eyed during that scene, J... He was so close to getting the poor thing to freedom, and then Luke had to go and... GAH! *Runs away crying to watch episode six* 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
dulljackieboy Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Hate on Zahn all you want, it's a free country--But SW: Rebellion uses more of Zahn's stuff as source material than any other non-OT source. Just something I thought I'd point out.
dulljackieboy Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 http://starwars.wikia.com/images/d/d9/Vadermauls.JPG just for the doubters. I don't care if it's canon. It's too cool not to have run through your mind every once and a while. Improved my life tremendously.
JediHunter Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 i ran into that graphic when i was doing a little searching on Maul... just for fun to find out more... and that part just shocked me.. but its still pretty awesome.. "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together."http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/akira9949/4297_image.jpg
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted October 3, 2006 SWR Staff - Executive Posted October 3, 2006 On the subject of cloning: Timothy Zahn screwed it up for the expanded universe when he began cloning the best pilots, troops, and engineers for his forces. They supposedly needed no training to be as good as the fellows they were cloned from when, in fact, they would have the intillect of a child and would be incapable of doing squat. As a matter of fact, they could be very different than the person they are cloned after. Weren't the clones flash-trained? Basically all the informaton was implanted into them. And even Zahn acknowledges that not all the clones were the same as their original, to the point Fel's clones actively help out Luke and Mara. They wanted to protect their homes and their way of life rather than hep the Empire. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
tacoJoemeru Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 On the subject of cloning: Timothy Zahn screwed it up for the expanded universe when he began cloning the best pilots, troops, and engineers for his forces. They supposedly needed no training to be as good as the fellows they were cloned from when, in fact, they would have the intillect of a child and would be incapable of doing squat. As a matter of fact, they could be very different than the person they are cloned after. Weren't the clones flash-trained? Basically all the informaton was implanted into them. And even Zahn acknowledges that not all the clones were the same as their original, to the point Fel's clones actively help out Luke and Mara. They wanted to protect their homes and their way of life rather than hep the Empire.How could he have screwed it up if that information didn't exsist at the time? He basically made the whole thing up himself. "The Chimaera is at your command, Admiral." —Captain Gilad Pellaeon
DarthTofu Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Holy crap! ...As taken off of Wikipedia. Apparently Maul survives his fall on Naboo and gets his lower half replaced with droid legs... Get's his head blown off by Lars after Obi defeats him... 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
turtle Posted October 4, 2006 Author Posted October 4, 2006 Some cool characters I'd never even thought of.....Piett is one of my favorite minor characters. Then again so is Lobot.
Defender_16 Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Holy crap! ...As taken off of Wikipedia. Apparently Maul survives his fall on Naboo and gets his lower half replaced with droid legs... Get's his head blown off by Lars after Obi defeats him... I've read that story before. I thought that was Fannon.
JediHunter Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Yes, i believe you are correct Def. I went searching for it and found it. This was stated right before it Warning: The following section is non-canon. It contains information explicitly released under the Infinities brand, confirmed to be non-canon by the author or Lucasfilm, or cut from the final release of a Star Wars media. Everything said in this section and not elsewhere did not happen in the "proper" Star Wars continuity.Here a link to the site.. just in case you want it.Darth Maul "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together."http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/akira9949/4297_image.jpg
DarthTex Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Holy crap! ...As taken off of Wikipedia. Apparently Maul survives his fall on Naboo and gets his lower half replaced with droid legs... Get's his head blown off by Lars after Obi defeats him... He needs to get a "horn" cut Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
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