Sephran Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 Something I picked out of this topichttp://www.answers.com/topic/star-destroyer Sensor globesThe geodesic domes located on and around the bridge superstructure of Star Destroyers and related ships serve dual purposes. Inside the globes are hyperwave tranceiver coils for supralight active sensors while vanes jutting out of the dome serve as shield projectors for the surrounding area (the dome on the port side helps protect the bridge). These domes are not vulnerable to external attack so long as the shield remains intact, but concentrated bombardment—such as that ordered by Admiral Ackbar during the Battle of Endor—can knock out this protective field. The sensors and shield projectors thus become vulnerable to attack, as demonstrated by Rebel starfighter pilots. There are many such geodesic domes scattered around larger ships like the Executor, probably to ensure that there are no blind spots for her sensors and to provide a good distribution of shield projector coverage. Concentrated fire on a single area would thus not deprive the ship of all her shield-generating ability. When the Executor's sensor globe exploded during the Battle of Endor, a crewman said that the shields were down. Many people attributed this to the dome being destroyed, but the causal relationship is the other way around—the fighters were only able to destroy the dome because the shields were already down. So, would it mean, that once the shields are down...the sensor/shield domes are able to be destroyed, preventing from them coming back up again? Would that be able to see it's lights in Warlords?
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted July 18, 2005 SWR Staff - Executive Posted July 18, 2005 Not to add to this debate, but this is the opinion of SWTC, and Eville's sticking with it for this mod. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/faq.html#5.2.3 http://warlords.swrebellion.com/faq.php#mini-faqQ) OMG THE SHIELD GENERATORS ON THE STAR DESTROYER... A) you mean sensor domes... go read technical commentaries, believe what you will, but it won't change the mod Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
Sephran Posted July 18, 2005 Author Posted July 18, 2005 well..yes, I've read that....but oppinions were that it was one, or the other. Now I found out its actually both.
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted July 18, 2005 SWR Staff - Executive Posted July 18, 2005 I don't believe that. You'd put the shields where it would be most effective, protecting the engines and power generators. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
JanGaarni Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 Well, to be technically correct, the argument has never been between the domes being Sensor Domes or Shield Projectors, but Sensor Domes and Shield Generators.These are 2 different things. So the sensor domes having shield projectors isn't really a big deal. Why wouldn't they be protected by a shield? The actual shield generator(s) however is somewhere else on the ship. Projectors are doted around on the ships to project it with a force field. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
DarthTofu Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 That doesn't exactly make sense. Wouldn't the generator be within the shield? It doesn't exactly make sense to leave your generator vulnerable. Then you're screwed. 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Stellar_Magic Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Well, there are two possible reasons why the Shield Generators / Sensor Domes aren't protected by the shields. If they're sensor domes then they must use some form of light wave or radio wave to detect other vessels. It's possible that the shields would deflect, absorb, or even warp these transmissions forcing the sensors to be placed above the protection of the shields themselves. If they're shield generators another possibility exists. The generators may generate an extreme amount of heat which must be dissipated. It's possible that the shield generators are mounted in an exposed position above the shields so that the heat came be dissipated directly into space in a manner similar to the exhaust port on the death star. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
DarthTofu Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Which brings to mind the question of where the heck are the shield generators on a Mon Cal Cruiser? 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted July 20, 2005 SWR Staff - Executive Posted July 20, 2005 I think the common assumption is that they are integrated into the bulges that are on the MC cruisers. Basically they didn't have much time to refit their cruisers into warships, so they just stuff a lot of redudant shield systems everywhere. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
DarthTofu Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Still, they have redundant shielding. WOuldn't that make for a greater energy draw and all? And while I know that X-wings don't have capital ship class shields, we never see their shielding, either. Eh, I dunno... 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Sephran Posted July 20, 2005 Author Posted July 20, 2005 Well, there are two possible reasons why the Shield Generators / Sensor Domes aren't protected by the shields. If they're sensor domes then they must use some form of light wave or radio wave to detect other vessels. It's possible that the shields would deflect, absorb, or even warp these transmissions forcing the sensors to be placed above the protection of the shields themselves. If they're shield generators another possibility exists. The generators may generate an extreme amount of heat which must be dissipated. It's possible that the shield generators are mounted in an exposed position above the shields so that the heat came be dissipated directly into space in a manner similar to the exhaust port on the death star. well they ARE protected by the shield generators, but the shields cant sustain hits for a prolonged time..especially when its has allot of proton torpedos laucnhed at them, at the same concentrated area
JanGaarni Posted July 21, 2005 Posted July 21, 2005 Well, there are two possible reasons why the Shield Generators / Sensor Domes aren't protected by the shields. If they're sensor domes then they must use some form of light wave or radio wave to detect other vessels. It's possible that the shields would deflect, absorb, or even warp these transmissions forcing the sensors to be placed above the protection of the shields themselves. If they're shield generators another possibility exists. The generators may generate an extreme amount of heat which must be dissipated. It's possible that the shield generators are mounted in an exposed position above the shields so that the heat came be dissipated directly into space in a manner similar to the exhaust port on the death star.Seeing all these vessels have a nuclear reactor (of the fusion kind), and star destroyers of the Imperator class has 3 massive ones too mind you, I don't think they have any problem with heat dissipation. There are 2 important feature of a ships shields in Star Wars. The projectors, which needs to be at the surface, and the generator(s) creating the power. Actually, there's 3 main componments, as ships usually have 2 kinds of shielding: Ray shielding, which sucks quite a large amount of power and is therefore usually turned off outside combat, and Deflector Shields, which strenghten the hulls ability to absorb kinetic energy. The latter one has capacitors to dicipate the kinetic energy caused by objects hitting the hull and are usually always turned on. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
Stellar_Magic Posted July 21, 2005 Posted July 21, 2005 Seeing all these vessels have a nuclear reactor (of the fusion kind), and star destroyers of the Imperator class has 3 massive ones too mind you, I don't think they have any problem with heat dissipation. Actually the Imperial class is powered by a solar ionization reactor, the nuclear reactors feed directly into the engines and utilize their highly charged radioactive particles to propel the vessel. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
DarthTofu Posted July 21, 2005 Posted July 21, 2005 You know, it's odd, all of a sudden I'm able to simpathise with the Yuzhan Vong's hatred of machines... Dovin Basils are much easier to understand... 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
JanGaarni Posted July 21, 2005 Posted July 21, 2005 Seeing all these vessels have a nuclear reactor (of the fusion kind), and star destroyers of the Imperator class has 3 massive ones too mind you, I don't think they have any problem with heat dissipation. Actually the Imperial class is powered by a solar ionization reactor, the nuclear reactors feed directly into the engines and utilize their highly charged radioactive particles to propel the vessel.It's the same reactor. The fusion reactor is pretty much a small sun inside a ship, powering it. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
stormfury_2 Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 All i know is without shields i could throw rocks at the windows and probably brake an ISD (well i couldn't i'm just trying to put my point across ) what i'm getting at is this when 'shields' do become a reality i'm sure we can go into intricate details then atm i'm just glad they protect my sodding ships from the hundreds of turbo lasers and torpedos hurled at them on a regular basis i'm sure you'll all agree that without them the game could prove quite different and i don't really mind what the geodosic domes are to me they're just koool and part of the ISD design for whatever theoretical purpose they serve or don't serve. Tom... No Archibald you cannot fly me home! Especially because that which you are sitting in is a tin foil covered, card board box.
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