Which is your favorite Starfighter? (corrected)

[Stellar_Magic]

I know Raozr's Kiss wasn't crewed, but the point is SSDs aren't worth the expense of building, you can get more combat power for less by building Star Destroyers and Mon Calamari Crusiers, instead of Superheavies like the SSD and Sovereign.

[ADarkJedi44]

That's true, but once you have the thing you might as well use it for more than a luxury yacht...!!!!!!

[BadSamaritan]

Bah, I have been proven wrong. It was the Gaurdian.

 

I still dont think Pelleon has a SSD though, and if it was Stationed at Bastion, it was probably destroyed by the Vong in their attack. If he Had an SSD, why wasnt it his Flagship?

[Trejiuvanat]

Because Pellaeon probably understood how useless SSDs are. (And bad experience with them Knight Hammer, Reaper).

A Star Destoyer, though, weaker is more fitting for a battle. Therefore his use of the Chimaera and the Right to Rule.

Let's just name Pellaeon's SSD: the Garden.

[BadSamaritan]

Even though the SSD is an inferior ship compered to the practicality of the SD, can you truely argue that the SSD would not be the ship to have in battle? Just the amount of firepower it can bring to bear agaisnt an enemy fleet in enough reason to use it maybe not as a flagship, but as a major frontline ship?

 

Granted, for having four to five times times the forepower (depending on who you listen to) of an SD, it only carried two wings of fighters. But still, having a thousand guns at is disposal, the SSD is the ultimate war machine.

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

SSDs are good to have in battle, but the inherant risk of using it is two fold: First, if you loose it your troops will be greatly demoralized. If the enemy can take that down, what about hte little ships that everyone else is on? Second, if she goes belly-up, you've just spent a lot of credits to throw a ship into battle.

 

I think the reason they are so heavily armed and armored is incase you need to make a fighting retreat. And remember, when they were designed the Empire had thousands of ISDs to support one.

 

I knew I remembered reading about and Imperial SSD in one of the NJO novels, but it was never named or mentioned again. It was in the book where Luke and Mara first embark on their mission to find Sekot. As Trej mentioned above it was orbiting the planet where Pallaeon had his garden. It may have been Bastion, but as it was not in any of the battles afterwards, I think it is safe to assume that it is still intact.

 

I think that the Remnant has more than 1200 ships. Perhaps 1200 ISDs but you need to think about the other support craft. Carrak Cruisers, Lancer Frigates, Strike Cruisers, Escort Carriers, even VSDs. Even if they had 1200 ISDs and a plethora of the other craft above, they haveto defend each system under thier controll. The above wouldn't be very much.

 

That all said, just because the Remnant agreed to help the GFFA doesn't mean that they used all of the resources they had available. A smart commander would hold enough of thier troops back to defend themselves from any further threats, even the GFFA.

 

In the end, I think that our speculation is pointless really (I know, Icould have saved time and said this first) as there is no way to know the strenght of either force. Heck, we don't even have a way to know the strenght of an ISD vs an Mc 80. And we won't know who the new foe is until they release the first book.

[ADarkJedi44]

If the Remnant had that many ships, would they have accepted surrender so easily? Sure there was the Thrawn imitation plot, but you'd think there'd be a lot more resistance and an attempt at a fullscale revolt.....

Anyways I really doubt the Imps will be the enemies in the next book

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

They were probably as tired of fighting as the NR. And even though it seems like a lot of ships, the NR, even though its military was sort of in a shambles, was still superior at the time.

 

I think it is more likely that the Empire will be an ally. Maybe the Trade Federation will come back, or one of the small secular groups from the early novels?

[ADarkJedi44]

The Trade Federation or something like that hmmm...Sounds like an intresting idea, but well I'd be intresting to see how they'd be capable of attacking the GFFA...

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

Remeber the trouble Luke and Mara had taking out that droidieka on the dreadnaught in Survivors Quest.

[BadSamaritan]

Corperate sector maybe? I dont think the vong invasion got to them, and Im willing to bet they have a sizeable military.

[Guest Admiral_Antilles]

I don't believe the Corporate Sector will be the new enemy, samaritan. But the idea of the Trade federation or something would be an interesting twist on things.

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

If you look at the maps that are in the NJO books, it shows that the Vong passed right by the Corperate Sector. Since they eventually attacked the Empire, it is likely that they did the same in the CS. Heck, they even took out the Hutts!

[Guest Admiral_Antilles]

The Hutts needed a bringing down in life though.

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

True. Maybe there will be less crime now that they've been dealt with?

[Trejiuvanat]

If you look at the maps that are in the NJO books, it shows that the Vong passed right by the Corperate Sector. Since they eventually attacked the Empire, it is likely that they did the same in the CS. Heck, they even took out the Hutts!

 

They passed next by, but didn't get into it. In the last chapter of TUf when Lando, Han, Booster and Karrde are discussing stuff they mention that the Corporate Sector escaped mostly unscathed of the war.

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

There really isn't much there other than smugglers and scum. I'm sure that, had the Vong won, they would have had little trouble conquering it.

[Krytos]

Which is why the Vong would have left it alone - it was not worth their resources when they could be used better agaisnt the New Republic. Of course, the Vong couldn't have just left them completely alone - they were in a position to threaten the Vong's supply lines and already conquered worlds. Had the New Republic been able to use the Corporate Sector for launching raids during the war, the Vong would have been in a bit of strife. Thus by at least inflicting some damage and showing their power they could sway the Corporate Sector to stay out of the war

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

The CS wasn't really mentioned that much though. Most authors tend to forget its there, only having it mentioned in passing in an obscure conversation every now-and-then.

[Trejiuvanat]

The Vong probably bought them off, to keep them from harassing their traffic, although after the Vong settled in the Core, the Rim world near the Corporate Sector would have been pretty useless.

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

There may also have been a lot of people from the Corperate Sector who joind the Peace Brigade.

[Guest Admiral_Antilles]

The Peace Brigade totally made me sick, during the NJO series. They were so scared they joined whoever would not kill them and they ended up killing themeselves in the end...

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

I didn't get to read the book where they were destroyed. I hate the online novel idea, but I started to wish I had read it when referrences to it kept poping up in the later books.

[Krytos]

For the Vong, strategically, the Corporate Sector's position would have only made it uselful during the beginning of their campaign. In my opinion its isolation would have made it a perfect stagging area for the Vong invasion, a great foot hold into the galaxy. Though they chose to ignore it primarily - though I'm very doubtful that they would have left it undamaged due to the reasons I talked about before. As for the Peace Brigade and other traitors coming from their, I'd say you're right - even if the Vong attacked the Corporate Sector, they've always seemed like sell outs to me. The type of people who'd rather fight with their enemy than for their galaxy to save themselves.

I think the other main supplier of Peace Brigadiers would have been from Hutt Space, after all that's probably the largest concentration of smugglers, mercs, criminals etc. in the Galaxy. Mind you, I think one of the biggest surprises in NJO was when the Hutt's went against the Vong. Which brings me to another question, were the Hutts wiped out? In Ylesia, it's said that they were wiped out - though were they only referring to the planet Ylesia or to the whole race. It wouldn't be a lose if the Hutts got wiped out, though it would be difficult to kill them all off ~ they are slippery and generaly hard to kill (except for Jabba of course )

[Guest Admiral_Antilles]

I would say a bit remain, but that incident could have dwindled their numbers down a bit. I believe it would have at least mentioned the extinction of Hutts...