How does this sound: Thrawn’s Betrayal: The Chiss Awakening

[Chimera]

Thrawn’s Betrayal: The Chiss Awakening

 

Index

1-Basic Idea

2-Back Story

3-What’s new

4-Balance/Gameplay hints

5-Problems/Inconsistencies

 

1-The basic idea is:

Luke turned to the Dark Side, the second Death Star is completed, and Mon Mothra is dead.

 

Thrawn discovers the Emperor's next plan for total domination is to conquer the last great empire: The Chiss.

 

He returns to his home and begs forgiveness (he was exiled before) in return for Imperial technology and the information that the Empire is planning to attack. The Chiss agree to forgive Thrawn, and reach out to the remaining Rebels (Leia, Han, Chewy, and some others).

 

Can Leia defeat the Emperor? Can Kyp Durron do it if she fails? Will the rogue jedi master (the Cathar Vyvao) who returns from self-imposed exile stay long enough to train a new jedi knight or will her poor loyalty to the Jedi cause her to fail again?

 

2-Back Story:

Thrawn was once exiled from the Chiss Empire for violating their policy of not interacting with outsiders and for his preemptively strike to save the Chiss. They control much of the unknown regions and have no desire to become involved in galactic affairs.

 

On his own, Thrawn was enticed to join the Empire and became one if it’s greatest, if unknown, Grand Admirals.

 

A crucial moment happened on Endor, when Luke and Leia spot the Imperial biker scouts. If the scouts are caught quickly, no report is made and the mission continues. However, this time one scout got away.

 

The team rushes back to the ship and attempts to escape. Luke again senses he will only draw Vader closer to his friends and disappears at the last moment. Frustrated, Han leaves telling the rest they’ll be back, somehow. Back in time to rescue Luke and destroy the second Death Star before it is completed. They launch into space to warn the incoming Rebel fleet to leave and regroup.

 

Luke is captured with no resistance and taken before the Emperor. As the Alliance fleet drops out of hyperspace, Luke learns that the battle station is fully operational. Knowing the rest have left and there is now no way to stop the Emperor from destroying the fleet and likely his friends, Luke gives into despair. The Emperor has little difficulty using this to sway Luke to the Dark Side.

 

After a quick respite to repair the damage to the Death Star and fully armor it, Luke leads the Emperor to the Rebel Base. Many escape, but Mon Mothra dies while staying to help organize the evacuation to the last minute.

 

With the Rebels in full retreat, the Emperor announces he will remember all of the planets that turned against him after the defeat at Yavin, and enlists several new Dark Jedi that he trains in the art of Force Domination and sends out to return the “independent” systems to his fold.

 

But that is not enough. There is one glaring spot on his map that has resisted invaders for millennia: The Unknown Regions. He devises a plan to conquer this last area as a demonstration of his power to the rest of the galaxy. Thrawn learns the Emperor’s intention through his study of recent artwork commissioned by the Emperor, and confirms it with his spies. Thrawn escapes with plans for several Imperial ships and heads to Chiss space. He shows them the datacard with the Emperor’s plans and gives them the research for the Imperial ships. After much discussion, they grudgingly agree to give Thrawn control and to prepare for the invasion. After witnessing the power of the Emperor’s new Dark Jedi, they also realize they must try to find something to counter this threat.

 

The Chiss send ships out to find the remnants of the old Rebellion. They find not only Leia, Han and some scattered ships, but also an old rogue Jedi, Vyvao. They agree to ally themselves with these outsiders with the understanding that once the Empire is defeated, the Chiss will be allowed to return to seclusion and not be bothered again. The rogue Jedi, Vyvao, starts training some new Jedis, then mysteriously leaves. She returns to continue training, but all are left wondering if she will complete her task before leaving again… or worse yet, betraying this new fragile Alliance.

 

When the Emperor hears of this new Chiss-Rebel Alliance, he is publicly outraged and orders an attack on galactic-network news. Of course, this attack was actually already underway. Privately, he is thrilled that this new “alien menace” allows him to further prune nonhumans from his ranks and advance his prohuman agenda.

 

Can Leia succeed where Luke failed? Can the powerful new Jedi Kyp Durron succeed or will his tortured past and poor training from the Rogue Jedi lead him also to the Dark Side?

 

3-What’s new is:

Tactical Models and Capital Ship changes:

--For the Alliance - 2 brand new tactical models (Old Republic Diplomat Cruiser (Radiant IV), and the Anakhan Ion Frigate which becomes a Chiss invention). Textures could use some sprucing up if anyone would like… The cards were taken from swrebellion.com

--Also for the Alliance – 2 imported tactical models (Home One and MC40) from this website. Note I gave them stats that I felt balanced the game. Feel free to modify as see fit! (I have no manuals with actual stats… sorry!)

-- The Alliance can build Carrack’s (but why?), VSD1’s, ISD1’s, and the Super Star Destroyer (SSD) because Thrawn stole the technology. The Bulwark becomes downgraded to something between an ISD2 and a SSD but with great troop (6) and fighter (10) capacity. The threat of an Alliance SSD spurns development of the Eclipse, the ultimate battleship.

--For the Empire – 1 brand new tactical model (Accalamator, or Clone War Cruiser). Again, I made the stats so that this ship would be useful and fit into the game. Feel free to change!

-- Also for the Empire - 2 imported tactical models (Eclipse and Eidilon) from this website. I also radically changed the existing Strike Cruiser to be a “AntiFighter” Strike Cruiser to represent the greatest advance in anti-fighter capacity if you happen to feel those pesky things are worth the cost. Note again I gave all ships stats that I felt balanced the game first, and strived for accuracy second. Feel free to change them!

-- Finally, because the Empire had a SSD by this point in time according to the movie, you can now build them from the start! The Alliance also gets Home One and ISD’s from the start.

 

Fighters:

-Alliance gets the Chiss Clawcraft which takes the A-wing spot (someone had to go, just imagine the makers of the A-wing got destroyed) and is basically a Tie Interceptor with shields.

-Empire gets the Assault Gunboat (which replaces the impotent Tie Bomber which you only ever built because it was cute). It is slower than a Y-wing, but HEAVILY armed.

 

Characters:

-Made 9 new cards of Chiss characters. Some are beautiful... stolen art, but beautiful nonetheless. A few new nonChiss cards of Alliance characters (not all may make it in, so check swrebellion for left overs if you want different faces).

-Imported lots of existing cards from this wonderful website. There are now lots more Dark Jedi and Light Jedi to make things more... dynamic.

-All cards were game balanced, so they may have different stats than you’re used to!

-I tried to balance male and females…

-Note one common theme of Imperial characters…

 

Troops

-Troops are also more distinct in their capacities so building a mix is good. 3 new troop classes for both sides based on cards downloaded from swrebellion.com.

---Alliance gets 3 new units: Army Regulars (cheap), Artillery Brigade (excellent defense and bombardment because of auxiliary shield generators, lousy offense and detection because they can’t move easily), Repulsor Sleds (upgrades of Speeders +2 attack, +1 defense, +1 cost).

--Empire gets 3 new units: AT-ST (cheap, decent stats), AT-AT (main attack), Biker Scouts (cheap, excellent detection and bombardment (can get away) but lousy attack/defense), and the Dark Troopers cost MUCH more but now have incredible stats except bombardment)

 

Special Forces:

-ELIMINATED espionage units for both sides. Pet peave... I spend all my time clicking to renew their missions. Why their missions could not have been continuous like research or diplomacy is beyond me. Now there are two expensive units for both sides with special talents. The empire has reborn jedi (infiltrators with a higher combat (~100) capacity.) The rebellion has bounty hunters with the assassination option.

 

Defenses:

The Golan platform is equivalent to a LNR1 + a GenCore Shield 1, so it can be a nice thing to put on either a new planet or upgrade and old planet. Unfortunately, it also costs as much as both, but you save a slot for something else…

 

4-Game play/Balance hints

-In general, I tried to be accurate (as much as I could without a source manual) but I emphasized game balance.

-I try to keep in mind the core essential difference... The rebellion has more diplomats (20 to 15); while the Empire (with Palpatine on Coruscant) has more leaders (~20 to 15, except commanders). The Empire also only has 2 diplomats who are not Dark Jedi/Sith (the charismatic Pter Thanas and level-headed, rational Pellaeon). The Empire will have to rely on troops (which it now has some cheap ones) now more than ever to taken and hold planets, or use its Dark Jedi to convert them. The Alliance now has a few strong leaders with thanks to Thrawn and the Chiss, but they will have to use them wisely.

-The Empire's Jedi are better trained (but are they loyal and do the Rebellion Jedi have more potential?). The rebellion has more potential Jedi, because those Sith just keep killing off their students! But the Rebellion’s Jedi are weaker at the outset and will either have to train and hide or hope for the best in encounters with the Sith.

-Using someone else's idea, I made Death Stars cheap so the darn AI will BUILD THEM. So make sure you reset the Death Star’s cost if you play the empire. Feel free to reset the cost after you build one, because after all… according to the story line you supposedly have one almost complete (the death star 2 just needed some armor)

-I also tried to keep it so the Empire has big expensive toys that are superpowerful, while the Rebellion/Chiss have cheap but effective fighters and the occasional cheap dirty trick (Ion Frigate).

-The Alliance can build some Imperial ships, so make sure you check to see that ISD is really on your side. You can highlight Imperial or Alliance ships in the tactical mode with buttons bearing those emblems on the middle left of the control panel.

-Also about half of the rim world are now colonized with lots of resources like the core worlds. I just prefer it that way… the rim in the books is not as empty as the original game suggests.

-I will try to include a saved game with a more realistic starting point.

-QUICK AND EASY UNBALANCING THE GAME: Playing the Empire – boost the Rebels diplomatic and leadership skills, check all 100% Jedis that are unchecked, uncheck several of yours and reduce their Jedi strength to 10, remove Pellaeon and Pter’s diplomatic skills. Playing as rebels – do the opposite of the list above and give all Empire characters at least 50 diplomat skill.

 

Problems:

-Thrawn now has Mon Mothra's voice! Likewise, Leia is sometimes referred to as Luke, and has his voice and Kyp is now referred to as Leia... darn audio/DLL files! Just keep in mind who replaced who and it’s not too jarring. If anyone can fix this, you have my thanks!

-The biggest problem along these lines is that Leia (as Luke) still goes to study with yoda… I couldn’t find a way to disable this. If anyone wants to change the files to be the ghost of yoda, or maybe some other rogue jedi (The Dark Woman would be especially cool), please do! This gives the alliance more Force security than I intended…

-My model textures are... bland at best. At least they're close to the right size! Again, if you can and want to fix them, PLEASE DO!

- I tried but couldn't change the original fighter models. Sorry! How often do you zoom that close anyway

[Cain]

...now I see what is all about ...nice,very nice I may say ...You have an avantage Chimera you have the books and better translation droids :)and also I sense the challenge in you and a little of the dark side

....but I will not take it I'm a Jedi .... I know the answer for your problems and I will tel it to you I will do this by suggesting you some ways to avoid the problems ....if of course you accept my support,....I do not want to offend you again ?!

 

*edit*

PS. ...I was reading your posts, hmmm....and if you love this game so much I must say that I begin to like you ...and I will forget that you are a little close to the dark side ...Any location are you from ?....now that you finished your TC are you a freelance ?!.....if so PM me. And pls. do not make me a startreky again it brings ot my "dark side"

Edited January 26, 2004 by Cain

[Chimera]

Support is welcome, thanks!

 

you never offended me Cain something must have lost in the translation.

 

I am very hard to offend.

[Lord_La_forge]

Finally some new create Spirits on our site!!!

 

Welcome aboard guys! Your TC's are great! You both changed the SW galaxy to a subjective form. That's quite interesting. An alternate history based upon your personal feelings is giving more perspective to the game. I actually have my own little SW world inside of me (like i think everyone else has), and it probably differs from any other existing oppinions. Thats MY problem with these TCs (well not really a problem), that it simply differs from my ideas from my interpretations, I can hardly set myself into it. Just not my version of the story.. But I see now, how YOU feel about the SW plot. Still, I think it's great to have something like those here, and I support your projects, and I'm really glad to see, that some people are still able to work so much on a Rebellion project! (see that Jahled? See that Mask? You, Pucho?)

[Chimera]

Oops. I had no idea that we weren't supposed to play with the plot. After all, the game itself is desined for alternative endings...

 

Hmmm... suddenly my desire to distribute this thing is fading...

 

Oh well. It was fun for me. Thanks for everyone who contributed to rebed and the cards! It has given me countless hours of fun!

[Cain]

...now I'm reading this....hmmm ....Chimera stop using that option that is popping up on your screen [ Force Persuade ] 1. I have to see Chimera's TC ... :)is to much use of the dark side and this usually doesn’t works on Jedi's .... btw. You are not going anywhere.... don't be so dramatic because you are here to stay! Now I'm using that option [ Force Persuade ] just tell me if it is working.... it must be.

 

Since we are the new TC makers and it seems that until we start to work together we have a small contest problem.... I will take your challenge in old style way and prepare for battle (see the avatar)....

 

-Old Rebellion ...multiplayer....name your side ! ....and we will finish this in combat since the Force is drawing us to a confrontation. Well what are you saying sith ?! Are you up for the challenge that you made when you had writhed this :

 

*quote*

 

"you have Star Trek invading the Star Wars universe... yeah, that might ruffle feathers for reasons too complicated to get into with out a good lager or two.

But hey... many enjoy a good Star Wars/Trek mix"

 

Wee will have to find a time for this duel ...or you may abandon your ways Sith ......

 

 

PS. Try to change that dll. Yoda&Luke with something …and you can change also the sound waw’s with something or delete them ….just use reshak and rebed combined it helps

[the_mask]

(see that Jahled? See that Mask? You, Pucho?)

Huh ? Jahled's pc won't stay online for long, Pucho's completely resigned since Sept (I think) and I, well I'm always around . Did you see the last thread I opened in the TC Members area ?

What are your cards doing, LaForge ? Haven't gotten an email from you in a long time either

 

Btw, Chimera, did you get the Chiss fighter ? In my fighters tutorial, there's also a template picture. If you resize that to, say 256x256 and put your fighter images in there you've almost won. Take a closer look at how I described converting images to fighter there and I'm sure it'll work. If you got any questions you can always write a PM.

Have you looked at my page ? Maybe the fighters you seek are already there ...

[Chimera]

Cain - sorry about the Trek misunderstanding. I had it wrong. And thanks for the encouragement, but I think I won't bother uploading it. There doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm beyond you for this TC. One of the excellent votes was me, and I did that just so the website would let me see the results

 

It was fun to do though. Good luck with your TCs. Your enthusiasm is a great assest that will take you far!

 

Mask - thanks for you fighter email! I have not figured out how to import the model, but I never look at fighters that close for it to matter to me. The picture was great though. Also thanks for your encouragement. I'm looking forward to rebellion-reloaded (and rebellion 2 if they are still working on that).

 

I wish there was a way to delete this thread as the website suggests, but I have not been able to find it. Oh well.

[Lord_La_forge]

Wow Cain! Sounds like a big duel oncoming

Chimeria: Cool name, Sound familiar.. Anyways, don't be dissapointed! And give this thread a bit more time! We have a bunch of members, but in reallity, they're all coming for the downloads area. Our forums are quite small, not a big family, I suppose. And nobody is forbidding you to play with the plot, but you will have difficulties with finding members, who are feeling exactly the same way as you do, and voting excellent for it. But I must say, you have earned respect here, by letting Mon Mothma die in your TC So don't give up your creative ambitions, perhaps you could help us with the Reloaded project too...

 

 

(see that Jahled? See that Mask? You, Pucho?)

Huh ? Jahled's pc won't stay online for long, Pucho's completely resigned since Sept (I think) and I, well I'm always around . Did you see the last thread I opened in the TC Members area ?

What are your cards doing, LaForge ? Haven't gotten an email from you in a long time either

 

I know man I was just hoping. But nice to see you around, mate!

Jahled's misery is a disaster He has been offline for ages!! But we need him for the reloaded project. As for my cards, I feel myself like a disabled Damorian freighter (of course with excellent textures!! ) without Jahled. And I have some works and projects going on in "real" life too. But if my buddy could recover his PC, I would gladly spend some time, start working on it again. We are pretty close to the finish with the troop cards however. But I can't complete it without Jahled.

 

Now I'm going to the Members area to check your topic.........dum dedum dedum dedum dedum....

[Cain]

Well I must say that you past the test that I prepared for you...it seems that you are a Jedi after all. That's nice.....and I'm sure that I have juged you rung.It's not my style and probably we will let many people guesing what will be the outcome of that battle.....btw. we have to do it someday men !

 

...Hey and also the sound's of lightsabers on the forums get's me ready for battle.

 

I think it was a tournament here but I do not know the outcome and ho is the champion.

 

Nobody is against your TC men and I promise you if your's TC will not be posted I will not submit also the Rebellion The Remnant TC..that's a promise !

 

Now I'm going on the next topic....

[the_mask]

LaForge is right Chimera, give this thread a bit more time. I'd hate to see you not publishing your work at all. We are about 2,500 members by now, but there are only about 30, who post regularly. Others ask in PMs from time to time , 'cause ... I dunno, maybe they don't wanna post.

So, I'm gonna use a quote I've used on some occasions before : Learn patience, you must

 

LaForge, I just had some email contact with Jahled, his pc still won't stay online for more than 5 mins, because of this svchost thingy problem of his, but we'll hopefully have a new addition to your team's ranks that should help finishing the cards

[Lord_La_forge]

HEY! I just checked it! Cain, you are from Romania? Cool! I'm from Hungary, looks like we're neightbours

SW Rebellion international

[Cain]

I knew about this Lord_La_Forge the Force can tell such things ....about the fact that we are so close actualy I was born in Timisoara and I have some hungarian blood in my family also...but I feal that I am the only rebellion fan here in Romania...gtg now seeya

 

 

*edit*

 

Hey....if you planing a vacantion on the Black Sea shore in the summer you are invited at my palce men !...... I have two PC's so we can play and we will see in how many parts a lightsaber can cut a ninja sword I gues 19 to 30 ..still can't figure out this becouse the last ninja that see this run after only two parts.

 

Hey the offer it's ok I can arange a holiday for you here .

[Lord_La_forge]

Hey now! Really? I have some good friends, who are from Transilvania (erdély) and are living here in Hungary. Not impossible, that I visit you one day and show you, how a ninja can cut of an elite protectors head with only one short, silent, eternal move. You'll feel the power of my ultimate ninja lightsaber! grrrr...

 

There are 2 more members from Hungary at this site (atleast). We had a guy from Latvia too. So I'm quite sure, that you are not alone there...

 

Your holiday offer really sounds interesting!

[Cain]

to Lord_La_Forge

 

well,well,well.....seems that now ninja's have lightsabers ?!..... I didn't know that the japonese did intergalactic travel ?! Let's see... the black kimono must be some sort of dark armor no ?! btw. I had one protector corpse without head brought back to HQ for burial but I assumed that it must be a sith ho do it...so if it is you ....hmmm.... I must issue an new order for your head...or i can do it my self....just tell me you can face me ....not fight just whit only one Protector and also untrained SpecOperative

 

 

PS. Also if you can come here for summer tell me what you will like and we can start to plan by email.

 

btw. did you see the TC ?! Any favorite card from there ? I want to see your opinion on the respective topic

 

Seeya.

[Lord_La_forge]

Looks like, someone underestimated the power of the Holy Ninja Jedi Masters! The Protectorate should protect their Professional Protector's dental prosthesis, it might fall out quickly, if he is messing around with the Sacred Silent Sinobis!

 

 

Well you have made some very nice changes (the Protector regiment and the Protectors looks great!). I don't really get the point with the royal guards with stormtrooper armor. Crazy mix But it's also very creative! You've probalby worked alot on the graphical part, and so, your TC has gained great quality. I still don't know, what to say about the plot , but after all I THINK, this is the best TC ever created for Rebellion. Quality work, also not willing too much... Congrats!

[Cain]

about the plot ... ....Chimera is now fixing that just read the protectorate topic second page and you will find there something to meditate at

 

 

quote

*but after all I THINK, this is the best TC ever created for Rebellion.*

 

I do not think so ....remember that it is a soft TC made for easy instal there are no actualy new models I just fix old errors. The new one The Remnant is also "soft" but the new staff will be enhanced beyond recognition .... also will be more heavy .dll changes than in the Protectorate

 

....try to play it a little and tell me the difficulty level...it was the only thing possible to do without unbalanceing the two sides...Evaders said that it prohibites the early expansion..... it is true but usualy against the AI the moves that I take in the first 100 days will decide the fate of the game ...now you have to fight if you are on expert ....so tell me what you think....it is more difficult or not ?

 

About the protectors I always hated the stromtroper frog face , and also the helmet mouth ....what the hell they needed that ?!? they are all conected (online) they need a mouth to speak ?? ...so this new Helmets are the advanced stromtroopers .

 

what do you mean by :"also not willing too much."?

[Lord_La_forge]

Okay, but I still think it's the best BECAUSE it's "soft"

 

I'll try it, as soon as I have time

[Cain]

ok ...let me know when you try it